Curse

dunky_g · Feb 16, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Basically, your QQ'ing for something to be fixed, that has been known and aknowlaged by Anet, If they were going to fix it, they would have already. Considering what happened last year, i dont belive they will fix it, and it will probly be the same at next years event.

Move on

Polgara Val · Feb 16, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

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Originally Posted by dunky_g

Basically, your QQ'ing for something to be fixed, that has been known and aknowlaged by Anet, If they were going to fix it, they would have already. Considering what happened last year, i dont belive they will fix it, and it will probly be the same at next years event.

Move on

I do admit that it is certainly looking that way, however you never know till you try.

If it works then great if it doesent then yep thats it.

Pol

Feathermoore Rep · Feb 16, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by dunky_g

Because they didnt quite make it into the top 100 they deserve it?

how does that work?

thats like saying, i was one number off the jackpot in the lottery, why dont they just give it to me anyway?!

You are aware that guessing all but one number in the lottery still gives quite a sum of money, right? Definately not as much but still very noteable.

However, the point still remains that it should have been Top 100 Unique Accounts that recieved prizes in the first place. I doubt many if any will revieve a mini at all that didn't make it the first time, but I'm glad someone tried to sort it out with ANet. GL to those that were close.

El Presidente · Feb 16, 2008, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Some of the people that "won" the prizes didn't even actually do the race themselves.

An ex-guildmate that is really, really good (he won 2 this year and 2 last year on his/his wife's accounts) also logged in on 4 other guildmate's second and third accounts to win them beetles, too. All this for a 50/50 split on an undedicated sale (or all the gold if they dedicated it and then sold). That'd be 7 beetles he won this year on various accounts (5 being not his).

I didn't race, but if I placed #101-105, I'd be slightly pissed...NOT because he achieved the scores posted but because the ones that got the pet couldn't even come close to top 100 on their own. Whether it is allowable to do so, or not, I'm not sure...but it's certainly not fair to those that would have won the prize had this not occured...

Ekelon · Feb 16, 2008, 03:51 AM // 03:51

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Originally Posted by El Presidente

Some of the people that "won" the prizes didn't even actually do the race themselves.

An ex-guildmate that is really, really good (he won 2 this year and 2 last year on his/his wife's accounts) also logged in on 4 other guildmate's second and third accounts to win them beetles, too. All this for a 50/50 split on an undedicated sale (or all the gold if they dedicated it and then sold). That'd be 7 beetles he won this year on various accounts (5 being not his).

I didn't race, but if I placed #101-105, I'd be slightly pissed...NOT because he achieved the scores posted but because the ones that got the pet couldn't even come close to top 100 on their own. Whether it is allowable to do so, or not, I'm not sure...but it's certainly not fair to those that would have won the prize had this not occured...

So you're complaining about the person who used 5 different accounts, but your not complaining about the person who placed on the top 100 scores 21 times? That's 20 beetles missing right thar.... /sigh This world doesn't make sense.

El Presidente · Feb 16, 2008, 03:54 AM // 03:54

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

So you're complaining about the person who used 5 different accounts, but your not complaining about the person who placed on the top 100 scores 21 times? That's 20 beetles missing right thar.... /sigh This world doesn't make sense.

Not at all...at least he placed those scores on one account and won one pet. Last year, 2 people dominated and had over half the scores for the most part, if I remember correctly. Anet had a year to change the way the top 100 would be, but failed to do so.

dunky_g · Feb 16, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

less winners = less pets = more moneys for the winners

If i was that good and saw how the ranking worked, wouldnt you try and boot every1 else out the list to make your prize worth more?!

Madbull2 · Feb 16, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by dunky_g

less winners = less pets = more moneys for the winners

If i was that good and saw how the ranking worked, wouldnt you try and boot every1 else out the list to make your prize worth more?!

Well no, but that's because I'm not a jerk. That aside, the problem shouldn't even be there. Anet screwed up horribly and had a year to fix it and they still didn't do anything. Inexcusable

Nadia Roark · Feb 16, 2008, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by Saphrium

I completely agree with OP that because of Anet's scripting error that some people are able to get multiple entries in the top 100 and OP was left out by a slim chance.

big deal.

Sorry to hijack, but I can't resist commenting on the awesomeness of your avatar. If I had been drinking something at the time, I probably would have spit it out in surprise. I think you're the only other person I've met who is (apparently) familiar with that likeness. Best. Villain. Ever.

/offtopic

bigtime102 · Feb 16, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by dunky_g

Basically, your QQ'ing for something to be fixed, that has been known and aknowlaged by Anet, If they were going to fix it, they would have already. Considering what happened last year, i dont belive they will fix it, and it will probly be the same at next years event.

Move on

Move on? On to what? GW2? IF they cant fix obviouse stuff in GW1 how am I supposed to believe GW2 will be better? I dont know but I do know that I wont be buying the game when it hits the shelves, Ill wait and see what people say. Why? Because the more they keep working on this game with updates the more I see they dont get it, and im starting to think that this games greatness was just a fluke. If it wasnt a fluke theyd be updating and making things better., not going backwards or not going forward at all. Not fixing the beetle racings is not going forward, making npc's dissapear after events are finished is going backwards. How can they not see the popularity of these kinds of events that they dont bother fixing stuff like beetle racing or lunar token npc's? If they cant see the obviouse then maybe they just got lucky. CAnt be good either way. I mean an event like beetleracing thats giving out a prize thats worhty 10000's of ectos youd think they'd be able to get it right, but they didnt...

Anet should quit while its ahead, id be more accepting of the fact that they stopped working on this game and it is what it is then when they keep updating it and dont fix the obviouse or even take a few steps back. That bad publicity.

**cosyfiep** · Feb 16, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03

I didnt even go beetleracing (slow computer, slow connections....horrible lagg. why bother).

but I do concur with the OP.
the awards should be handed out to the top 100 accounts....not just those that got into the top 100....since people somehow were allowed to have multiple placings (thats just not right---your top score should knock out your previous ones) they are getting only one award....but why not award the top 100 unique accounts???? That makes much more sense---ah nevermind, its anet were are talking about.

(anet has found yet another way to keep the rich rich--and keep the minipet market going with high end minis....thats all they care about now).

Kashrlyyk · Feb 16, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Davros Uitar

...The OP's cause sounds just and noble, but the element where they admit that they are likley to benefit from the outcome makes me view it more as self interest than a moral crusade.

PS - no - I don't have a mini roller beetle, so I have no self interest in keeping them exclusive (just to declare I have no pecunary interest in the outcome

).

I was never anywhere close to the top 100, but I still support the OP, because I believe it would be the right thing to do and it would be fair.

vixro · Feb 16, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

All these posts of supporters, why not have a poll in the suggestion forums on whether or not the top 100 UNIQUE racers should get a minipet or not? THen we can clarify more than 40 posts and see what the majority feel.

Lord Sojar · Feb 16, 2008, 08:28 AM // 08:28

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Originally Posted by vixro

All these posts of supporters, why not have a poll in the suggestion forums on whether or not the top 100 UNIQUE racers should get a minipet or not? THen we can clarify more than 40 posts and see what the majority feel.

More important things to vote on.

MoriaOrc · Feb 16, 2008, 10:23 AM // 10:23

As a top 100 scorer who held a single place, I wish you best of luck. If you do manage to get them to award those extra 40+ beetles, that's just more people who get a fun reward.

Even if they ultimately don't give out the missing beetles this year, hopefully enough pestering will get them to fix it before next year roles around.

Polgara Val · Feb 16, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

I appreciate the posts of support so far, as someone mentioned above if we get enough people to keep this going them maybe Anet might be tempted to oh i dont know actually fix something that they so obviously left unattended for 1 whole year.

Just for a second forget about the fact that the you get a reward for being in the top 100. I would be actually be amazed if they actually FIX something that would actually benefit people who should have been in the top 100. Heaven forbid something a fix occurs to correct such an obvious problem for the players, lest we all go into collective apoplexy.

Pol

Ekelon · Feb 16, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Polgara Val

I appreciate the posts of support so far, as someone mentioned above if we get enough people to keep this going them maybe Anet might be tempted to oh i dont know actually fix something that they so obviously left unattended for 1 whole year.

Just for a second forget about the fact that the you get a reward for being in the top 100. I would be actually be amazed if they actually FIX something that would actually benefit people who should have been in the top 100. Heaven forbid something a fix occurs to correct such an obvious problem for the players, lest we all go into collective apoplexy.

Pol

According to Gaile from last year's event, they didn't have logs of people who weren't in the top 100, which was why the couldn't fix the problem last year. I guess we can hope she was misinformed?

Scheda · Feb 16, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

According to Gaile from last year's event, they didn't have logs of people who weren't in the top 100, which was why the couldn't fix the problem last year. I guess we can hope she was misinformed?

When there was that duping thing they even claimed being able to find out an item's origin. I can't really believe that they now haven't saved these scores.

Ekelon · Feb 16, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by Scheda

When there was that duping thing they even claimed being able to find out an item's origin. I can't really believe that they now haven't saved these scores.

The programming is slightly different I think. Because so many people are clocking in high scores, the programmers probably only thought to save the highest 100 scores. In order to create an item, though, it's like a new object has to be instantiated. This object will always have an "original" address, and maybe they thought to tag an address along with the person too. You can't do a that for rollerbeetles because they probably merely have an array of 100 beetlers... anything out of that will not get put into the array. That's my theory of how they did it based on what Gaile said, but I could be wrong. Because if they had happened to make an array of like 300 beetlers, then it would make it really easy to just alter a couple lines of code to hand out the prizes... however, it doesn't seem to be the case or Gaile would've already done it last year.

Polgara Val · Feb 16, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

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Originally Posted by Ekelon

According to Gaile from last year's event, they didn't have logs of people who weren't in the top 100, which was why the couldn't fix the problem last year. I guess we can hope she was misinformed?

According to gaile not even a single piece of gold that goes through one player and to another that they arent aware of, i cannot believe that if they have that much observation over 1 piece of gold that they dont have logs to confirm the top 100 top times.

And lets face it Gaile has been wrong before, need i remind people of the polar bear hash up? To be honest i take everything that a gw representative say with a pinch of salt these days.

Pol